Paper patch bullets for 45-70

Nov 19, 2014 most such revolver cbs cast in the range of 0. Sharps 4570 and have been loading various bp and smokeless rounds to get a feel of what may work well in the rifle. Sources indicate the sharps rifle company offered a variety of bullets in this caliber, including a 293 grain express, a 400 grain grooved bullet and paper patched bullets in. This is a discussion on paper patching 45 70 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. My first attempt at paper patching 4570 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue.

Bullet diameter for 4570 paper patched cartridge shiloh. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. Mar, 2018 hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110. Dad is experimenting with bore diameter bullet after patching and black powder. That might be the best chamber around for paper patch accuracy. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets.

Three hardened dowel pins provide positive alignment in both vertical and horizontal planes. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. I have access to an original springfield trapdoor rifle. I plan to try paper patching some hollow base lead bullets designed for the 4570 round and shooting them in my martini henry carbine. Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading. I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work.

In addition, i have paul mathews, the paper jacket on the way from amazon. Nov 11, 2014 paper patch boolits should be lubricated. Has anyone paper patched these bullets 200 grains to 230. Mould blocks are made from durabar 654512 extruded fine grain ductile iron. His spotter did pretty well also winning the scope class with a. Paper patched bullets have no lube grooves like a conventional lead bullet. Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. Everything seemed to work great except i think i have the patch riding too high up on the bullet nose on the lee 457340 395 gr 2 cavity mold. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration.

Heavy sprue cutter plate precision ground both sides. A pp bullet simply has straight sides and the bullet is wrapped with a very thin sheet of paper. Mould blocks are made from durabar 65 45 12 extruded fine grain ductile iron. Harrison published his findings in the american rifleman and the nras compilation tome. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore.

For those using paper patch bullets, is there a noticeable difference in the number of shots before accuracy falls off with an. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. I am impressed with the way you shipped the bullets all bullets in individual holes. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. The forums at enjoying fine old rifles and good friends one shot at a time. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. We take all major credit cards, paypal, check and money order. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. My 21year old son eric and i drew cow elk tags as our second choice in our favorite hunt unit in the bighorn basin of wyoming. For those using paper patch bullets, is there a noticeable difference in the number of shots before accuracy falls off with an uncleaned barrel.

Due to the variety of casting techniques, temperatures, alloys, etc. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. You will only need enough lube peasized to cover the patch. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder.

Gunbroker is the largest seller of reloading supplies ammunition reloading all. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. If that would enter the rear of the leadecone throating easily, then it would be ready to use, as is. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. It was also known as the 4570 sharps, but it was dimensionally identical to the military round. Good morning, first off, i wouldnt recommend paper patch at all unless you can get with one of these guys here that have figured it all out to help you.

North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. I plan to try paper patching some hollow base lead bullets designed for the 45 70 round and shooting them in my martini henry carbine. So far the rifle enjoys these bullets as they shoot great. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paper patched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. I have a 4570 sharps rifle and just recently received my order of 500 grain spire point bullets. Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Sharps 45 70 and have been loading various bp and smokeless rounds to get a feel of what may work well in the rifle. The rifle ill be working with is a beautiful winchester 1885 bpcr with a badger barrel in 4570 caliber. Mar 06, 2014 using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting.

You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. My father shoots paper patch bullets in several rifles and for his browning hiwall. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet.

The patch lube has but one purpose to prevent tearing the patch when the bullet is seated. Paper patch call fury at 810 4042973 for repair in today. I would like to try some paper patched bullets as well. And as kurt mentioned, brent did very well this past weekend with his. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. I have cast 400 and 500 grain bullets and will be using vellum to patch the bullets. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. I have done all my bpcr shooting4570, 34 shilo using 20. Sep 30, 2008 and also just finished reading paul matthews book, forty years with the. Now you can cast, or as i do, swage your own bullets and shoot for a lot less. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110. I load paper patch bullets mostly for leveraction rifles. For those who are interested in full power with cast bullets in such calibers as. I do not know who owns this rifle today, but in dan was very happy with it.

Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. May 17, 2016 you can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00.

This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. It should also be noted that if a bullet prints out of the core group by 1 moa at 100 yards it does. Craig straight shooting, straight talkthe mark of a man. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paperpatched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. The megamite is especially useful for large bore calibers from. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched. My first attempt at paper patching 45 70 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110 by tom ball.

Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a powder charge. You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched bullets as well. Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold. I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in some help. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file.

The diameter of the cast slick and the thickness of the patching paper are at least a bit. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a. There is a direct relationship between the bullet casting alloy, the final diameter of the cast slick bullet, the thickness of the patching paper, and how the paper is wrapped on the bullet. Teflon tape seems to work better as a lube and insulator on a full diameter bullet than as a patch on a land diameter bullet. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. He states that the paper patched bullet is the ultimate in hunting bullets.

Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. He told me that in his younger days they would take 255 grain lead flat point bullets for the 45 colt pistol and paper patch them to use in the 4570 because one of the guys had a bullet mold for them and between them the. That means that the flyers had a considerably slower velocity over their trajectory than the bullets that went into the core group. Mar 22, 2015 back in the days of the buffalo hunters and the civil war, most folks used paper patched bullets in their rifles. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles.