Paper patch bullets for 45-70

Good morning, first off, i wouldnt recommend paper patch at all unless you can get with one of these guys here that have figured it all out to help you. Sharps 45 70 and have been loading various bp and smokeless rounds to get a feel of what may work well in the rifle. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched bullets as well. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paperpatched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. You can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. I have access to an original springfield trapdoor rifle. For those using paper patch bullets, is there a noticeable difference in the number of shots before accuracy falls off with an uncleaned barrel. Paper patch call fury at 810 4042973 for repair in today. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed bullets with either black powder.

Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. The forums at enjoying fine old rifles and good friends one shot at a time. This is a discussion on paper patching 4570 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. Teflon tape seems to work better as a lube and insulator on a full diameter bullet than as a patch on a land diameter bullet. We take all major credit cards, paypal, check and money order. Mould blocks are made from durabar 65 45 12 extruded fine grain ductile iron. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a. My father shoots paper patch bullets in several rifles and for his browning hiwall.

Everything seemed to work great except i think i have the patch riding too high up on the bullet nose on the lee 457340 395 gr 2 cavity mold. My first attempt at paper patching 4570 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue. Mar 06, 2014 using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. My 21year old son eric and i drew cow elk tags as our second choice in our favorite hunt unit in the bighorn basin of wyoming. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets.

For those using paper patch bullets, is there a noticeable difference in the number of shots before accuracy falls off with an. And as kurt mentioned, brent did very well this past weekend with his. Sep 30, 2008 and also just finished reading paul matthews book, forty years with the. We describe another method to economically and simply custom fit the bullet to your rifle bore to make your military surplus rifle shoot. That might be the best chamber around for paper patch accuracy. Craig straight shooting, straight talkthe mark of a man. I would like to try some paper patched bullets as well. There is a direct relationship between the bullet casting alloy, the final diameter of the cast slick bullet, the thickness of the patching paper, and how the paper is wrapped on the bullet. Due to the variety of casting techniques, temperatures, alloys, etc. Precision cnc lathe bored custom bullet casting molds. I am impressed with the way you shipped the bullets all bullets in individual holes. Corbin paper patchblackpower bullet tools corbin swaging.

North american muzzleloader hunting shares a couple of ways to patch lead bullets and the papers that works best. Corbin paper patch and blackpowder bullet swagingreloading. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Harrison published his findings in the american rifleman and the nras compilation tome. Paper patched bullets are still available, and some blackpowder shooters still roll their own paper patched bullets for hunting and competitive shooting. It was also known as the 4570 sharps, but it was dimensionally identical to the military round.

Gunbroker is the largest seller of reloading supplies ammunition reloading all. His spotter did pretty well also winning the scope class with a. This article is intended for shooters who are currently loading lubed. In my opinion, paper patched bullets was a kind of fashion in the early black powder cartridge era, and they were not necessarily better compared to grease grooved bullets. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. For those who are interested in full power with cast bullets in such calibers as. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles. That means that the flyers had a considerably slower velocity over their trajectory than the bullets that went into the core group. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110 by tom ball. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110.

The patch lube has but one purpose to prevent tearing the patch when the bullet is seated. Using a two stage sizing process to create cheap bullets to keep you shooting. Paper patched bullets have no lube grooves like a conventional lead bullet. Dad is experimenting with bore diameter bullet after patching and black powder.

In addition, i have paul mathews, the paper jacket on the way from amazon. May 17, 2016 you can clearly see the paper patch leaves the barrel intact around the bullet at 00. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. I plan to try paper patching some hollow base lead bullets designed for the 4570 round and shooting them in my martini henry carbine. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or by regular mail. He told me that in his younger days they would take 255 grain lead flat point bullets for the 45 colt pistol and paper patch them to use in the 4570 because one of the guys had a bullet mold for them and between them the. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. You can also watch as the paper patch comes off the bullet between the muzzle at 00.

Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paperpatched conical bullets. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. I plan to try paper patching some hollow base lead bullets designed for the 45 70 round and shooting them in my martini henry carbine. Mould blocks are made from durabar 654512 extruded fine grain ductile iron. Sources indicate the sharps rifle company offered a variety of bullets in this caliber, including a 293 grain express, a 400 grain grooved bullet and paper patched bullets in. So far the rifle enjoys these bullets as they shoot great. I was having a conversation with a person who has been in the reloading game a long time. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Using black powder is now big deal, i have it, know how to use it, and know it works fine with paper patched bullets, but can i use smokeless powder with paper patched. You will only need enough lube peasized to cover the patch.

I lube them with the lube i make for grooved bullets, although many types will work. I just ordered a perdesoli 1874 sharps snipe rifle. The use of paper patched bullets is especially known from the buffalo hunts on the american prairies where millions of the shaggy beasts fell for paper patched bullets. Nov 11, 2014 paper patch boolits should be lubricated. This is a discussion on paper patching 45 70 within the lever action forums, part of the gun forum category. Mar, 2018 hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45 120 aka 45 110. If that would enter the rear of the leadecone throating easily, then it would be ready to use, as is. Be aware that due to their custom nature, many of these bullets are designed for a specific purpose or firearm, and wont necessarily fit or feed as drawn in all guns of that caliber. I have cast 400 and 500 grain bullets and will be using vellum to patch the bullets. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. I load paper patch bullets mostly for leveraction rifles.

The diameter of the cast slick and the thickness of the patching paper are at least a bit. Sharps 4570 and have been loading various bp and smokeless rounds to get a feel of what may work well in the rifle. Top long range muzzleloading targt shooters of the mid 1800s commonly relied on paper patched conical bullets. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. Has anyone paper patched these bullets 200 grains to 230. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. Now you can cast, or as i do, swage your own bullets and shoot for a lot less.

The megamite is especially useful for large bore calibers from. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in some help. I do not know who owns this rifle today, but in dan was very happy with it. A pp bullet simply has straight sides and the bullet is wrapped with a very thin sheet of paper. Paper patch bullet d reamer and shop made casting mold.

Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45. I have a 4570 sharps rifle and just recently received my order of 500 grain spire point bullets. I have done all my bpcr shooting4570, 34 shilo using 20. Here are the benefits of shooting paperpatched bullets in your inline. This is my go to boolit in my browning 1885 4570 in black powder but now im experimenting with paper patching and using unique as a powder charge.

The rifle ill be working with is a beautiful winchester 1885 bpcr with a badger barrel in 4570 caliber. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. He states that the paper patched bullet is the ultimate in hunting bullets. Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Wrapping and sizing paper patched bullets for muzzleloaders duration. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. It should also be noted that if a bullet prints out of the core group by 1 moa at 100 yards it does. Choose a design from our catalog or submit your own custom design. My first attempt at paper patching 45 70 cast lead bullets and i met with a slight issue. Mar 22, 2015 back in the days of the buffalo hunters and the civil war, most folks used paper patched bullets in their rifles. Nov 19, 2014 most such revolver cbs cast in the range of 0. Three hardened dowel pins provide positive alignment in both vertical and horizontal planes. Hunting with paper patch bullets in sharps 45120 aka 45110 by tom ball.